Nations And The Peoples Republic Of China, dalammelaksanakan kerjasama ACFTA dimaksud disepakati untuk menggunakan Rule ofOrigin (ROO) Form E atau Surat Keterangan Asal Barang Form E, yang diatur secara rincidalam Revised Operational Certification Procedures (Ocp) For The Rules Of Origin OfThe AseanChina Free Trade Area;bahwa berdasarkan Appendix 1: Revised Operational Certification Procedures (Ocp) ForThe Rules Of Origin Of The AseanChina Free Trade Area pada Rule 7 dinyatakan TheIssuing Authorities shall

Certificateof Origin (Form E), and signed by the authorised signatory;b) The origin of the product is in conformity with the Rules of Origin for the ACFTA;c) The other statements of the Certificate of Origin (Form E) correspond to supportingdocumentary evidence submitted;d) Description, quantity and weight of products, marks and number of packages,number and kinds of packages, as specified, conform to the products to be exported;e) Multiple items declared on the same Certificate of Origin (Form E) shall

Peraturan Presiden Republik Indonesia Nomor 37 Tahun 2011, dalmelaksanakan kerjasama ACFTA dimaksud disepakati untuk menggunakan RuleOrigin (ROO) Form E atau Surat Keterangan Asal Barang Form E, yang diatur secara ridalam Revised Operational Certification Procedures For The Rules Of Origin Of 'AseanChina Free Trade Area;bahwa berdasarkan Appendix 1: Revised Operational Certification Procedures (Ocp) .The Rules Of Origin Of The AseanChina Free Trade Area pada Rule 7 dinyatakan Issuing Authorities shall

of the Certificof Origin (Form E), and signed by the authorised signatory;b) The origin of the product is in conformity with the Rules of Origin for the ACFTA,c) The other statements of the Certificate of Origin (Form E) correspond to supportdocumentary evidence submitted;d) Description, quantity and weight of products, marks and number of packasnumber and kinds of packages, as specified, conform to the products to be exportee) Multiple items declared on the same Certificate of Origin (Form E) shall

The provisions of paragraph 1 of this Article shall not apply if thebeneficial owner of the royalties or fees for technical services,being a resident of a Contracting State, carries on business inthe other Contracting State in which the royalties or fees fortechnical services arise through a permanent establishmentsituated therein, or performs in that other State independentpersonal services from a fixed base situated therein, and theright, property or contract in respect of which the royalties orfees

Royalties and fees for technical services shall be deemed toarise in a Contracting State when the payer is that State itself, aLand, a political subdivision, a local authority or a resident ofthat State.

Where, however, the person paying the royalties orfees for technical services, whether he is a resident of aContracting State or not, has in a Contracting State a permanentestablishment or fixed base in connection with which theobligation to make the payments was incurred, and thepayments are borne by that permanent establishment or fixedbase, then the royalties or fees for technical services shall bedeemed to arise in the Contracting State in which the permanentestablishment or fixed base is situated

Where, by reason of a special relationship between the payerand the beneficial owner or between both of them and someother person, the amount of the royalties or fees for technicalservices paid exceeds, for whatever reason, the amount whichwould have been agreed upon by the payer and the beneficialowner in the absence of such relationship, the provisions of thisArticle shall apply only to the lastmentioned amount.

In suchcase, the excess part of the payments shall remain taxableaccording to the laws of each Contracting State, due regardbeing had to the other provisions of this Agreement.7.

(C) The term outer sole as used in headings 64.01 to 64.05 means that part of(other than an attached heel) which, when in use, is in contact ea the ieconstituent material of the outer sole for purposes of classification shall be taken to be thematerial having the greatest surface area in contact with the ground.

In such cases, the upper shall be considered to be thatportion of the shoe which covers the sides and top of the foot.

Subject to Note 3 tw this Chapter (a> The material of the upper shall be taken to be the constitucr saterial ng the greatestexternal surface area, no count being taken of acccssori such as ankle Patches, edging, ornamentation, buckles, tabs, eyelet stays or (b> The constituent material of the outer sole shall be taken to he ma jal & the greatestsurface arca in contact with the ground, mo account being taken of accessories or reinforcementssuch as spikes, bars, nails, protectors or similar attachments

Subject to Note 3 to this Chapter :(a> The material of the upper shall be taken to be the constituent material having the greatestexternal surface area, no account being taken of accessories or reinforcements such as anklePatches, cdging, ornamentation, buckles, tabs, eyelet stays or similar attachments;(b) The constituent material of the outer sole shall be taken to be the material having the greatestSurface area in contact with the ground, no account being taken of accessories or reinforcementssuch

For the purposes of claiming preferential tariff treatment, theimporter shall submit to the customs authority of the importingMember State at the time of import, a declaration, a Certificateof Origin (Form D) including supporting documents (i.e.invoices and, when required, the through Bill of Lading issuedin the territory of the exporting Member State) and otherdocuments as required in accordance with the laws andregulations of the importing Member State;2.

In cases when a Certificate of Origin (Form D) is rejected bythe customs authority of the importing Member State, thesubject Certificate of Origin (Form D) shall be markedaccordingly in Box 4 and the original Certificate of Origin (FormD) shall be returned to the issuing authority within a reasonableperiod not exceeding sixty (60) days. The issuing authority shallbe duly notified of the grounds for the denial of tariff preference.3.

Berdasarkan Rule 18 OCP ATIGA sebagaiberikut:Halaman 7 dari 68 halaman Putusan Nomor 276/B/PK/PJK/2017The importing Member State may request the issuing authority ofthe exporting Member State to conduct a retroactive check atrandom and/or when it has reasonable doubt as to the authenticityof the document or as to the accuracy of the information regardingthe true origin of the goods in question or of certain parts thereof.Upon such request, the issuing authority of the exporting MemberState shall

conduct a retroactive check on a producer/exporter'scost statement based on the current cost and prices, within a sixmonth timeframe, specified at the date of exportation subject to thefollowing conditions:(a) The request for retroactive check shall be accompanied withthe Certificate of Origin (Form D) concerned and shall specifythe reasons and any additional information suggesting that theparticulars given on the said Certificate of Origin (Form D) maybe inaccurate, unless the retroactive check

of the exporting Member State theresult of determination whether or not the good is originatingshall be completed within one hundred and eighty (180) days.While awaiting the results of the retroactive check, paragraph(c) shall be applied Retroactive checks sebagaimanadisebutkan di atas dilakukan tidak terbatas pada keraguanreceiving authority atas origin criteria yang tercantum dalamHalaman 8 dari 68 halaman Putusan Nomor 276/B/PK/PJK/20176)Form D.

4..Petugas yang bertanda tangan di bawah ini, nama Mugn) Set YOWAT , cHnip .'97007.20 200701 2 ol2cp shall vel et ree Se... dengan mengingat sumpah jabatan serta berdasarkan peraturan Daerah Kota MalangNomor 5 Tahun 2009 tentang Penyidik Pegawai Negeri Sipi menyatakan bahwa pada hari ini, MN csc onetanggal 20 !9....... pukul...

,dengan alamat 20 Bendemeer Road Hex. 0201 Cyberhub, Singapore;bahwa dalam Form E dan Bill of lading, barang dikapalkan dari Xingang, China;bahwa dengan demikian terdapat bukti terjadinya Third Party/Country Invoicing;bahwa importasi dengan kategori Third Party/Country Invoicing diperbolehkan, diaturdalam Rule 23 Revised Operational Certification Procedures (OCP) For The RulesOf Origin Of The AseanChina Free Trade Area, sebagai berikut : The CustomsAuthority of the importing Party shall accept a

The third party invoicenumber should be indicated in Box 10 of the Certificate of Origin (Form E), theexporter and consignee must be located in the Parties and the copy of the third partyinvoice shall be attached to the Certificate of Origin (Form E) when presenting to theCustoms Authority of the importing Party yang telah disahkan dengan PeraturanPresiden Republik Indonesia Nomor 37 Tahun 2011 Tentang Pengesahan SecondProtocol To Amend The Agreement On Trade In Goods Of The FrameworkAgreement On

Asian Nations And The Peoples Republic Of China, dalmelaksanakan kerjasama ACFTA dimaksud disepakati untuk menggunakan Rule of Ori(ROO) Form E atau Surat Keterangan Asal Barang Form E, yang diatur secara rinci dalRevised Operational Certification Procedures (OCP) For The Rules Of Origin Of 7AseanChina Free Trade Area;bahwa berdasarkan Appendix 1: Revised Operational Certification Procedures (Ocp) IThe Rules Of Origin Of The AseanChina Free Trade Area pada Rule 7 dinyatakan 7Issuing Authorities shall

of the Certific.of Origin (Form E), and signed by the authorised signatory;b) The origin of the product is in conformity with the Rules of Origin for the ACFTA,c) The other statements of the Certificate of Origin (Form E) correspond to supportdocumentary evidence submitted;d) Description, quantity and weight of products, marks and number of packagnumber and kinds of packages, as specified, conform to the products to be exportee) Multiple items declared on the same Certificate of Origin (Form E) shall

Bahwa berdasarkan Technical Assistance Agreement antara Yamaha Corporation Japan (Y PT XXX (YMMA), disebutkan bahwa:Article 4 Supply of components and Materials YCJ shall supply YMMA with components, parts and materials necessary for manufaProducts upon the request of YMMA. The price thereof will be determined at an 11competitive price. Date and method of payment, and method of transportation, and othmatters shall be determined through mutual consultation between the parties hereto;.

Impor bahanbahan baku dan bahan setengah jadi untuk usahausaha tersebut di atidak mengurangi izin dari yang berwajib;Bahwa berdasarkan Technical Assistance Agreement antara Yamaha Corporation Japan (Y(Pemohon Banding, disebutkan bahwa:Article 4 Supply of components and MaterialsYCJ shall supply YMMA with components, parts and materials necessary for manufacturing tlupon the request of YMMA.

The price thereof will be determined at an international competitiveand method of payment, and method of transportation, and other relevant matters shall be determirmutual consultation between the parties hereto.bahwa Pemohon Banding telah menyampaikan dokumen Laporan Keuangan periode 31 Maret 200oleh auditor Independen Drs. Thomson E.

;The obligations of PERTAMINA hereunder shall be deemed to havecomplied with by the delivery to CONTRACTOR within one hundredand twenty (120) days after the end of each Calendar Year, ofdocumentary proof in accordance with the Indonesian fiscal lawsthat liability for the above mentioned taxes has been satisfied,except that with respect to any of such liabilities whichCONTRACTORS may be obliged to pay directly, PERTAMINA shallHalaman 11 dari 39 halaman.

diatursebagai berikut:"Pajak Ditanggung Pemerintah, yang selanjutnya disebutPDTP, adalah pajak terutang yang dibayar oleh pemerintahdengan pagu anggaran yang telah ditetapkan dalam AnggaranPendapatan dan Belanja Negara, kecuali ditentukan lain dalamUndangUndang mengenai Anggaran Pendapatan dan BelanjaNegara";Bahwa dalam Section IV Pasal 1.3 huruf b kontrak Bagi HasilBlok Rokan Antara Perusahaan Pertambangan Minyak dan GasBumi Negara (PERTAMINA) dan Pemohon Banding, dinyatakansebagai berikut:"PERTAMINA shall

;The obligations of P ERTAMINA hereunder shall bedeemed to have complied with the delivery toCONTRACTOR within one hundred and twenty (120) daysafter the end of each Calender Year, of documentary proofin accordance with the Indonesian fiscal laws that liabilityfor the above mentioned taxes has been satisfied, exceptthat with repect to any of such Iiabilities whichCONTRACTORS may be obliged to pay directly,PERTAMINA shall reimburse it only out of its share ofproduction hereunder within sixty (60)

Overhead Allocation;General and Administrative cost, other thcm direct charges,allocable to this opration should be determined by a detailedstudy, and the method determined by such study shall be appliedeach Year consistenly.

Laws and Regulations, yang antara lain mengaturbahwa:2.1 The laws of the Republis of Indonesia shall apply tothis Contract, danSection IV Rights and Obligations ofthe Parties:CONTRACTOR shall;(6) Furnish all technical aid, including foreignpersonnel, required for the performance oftheWork Program, payment whereof requires ForeignExchange;(c) Furnish such other Funds for the performance ofthe Work Program that required payment inForeign Exchange, including payment to foreignthird parties who perform

be denominated and paid in euro and shall be exclusive ofvat and all other taxes. in the event that vat and/or any other taxshall be due in respect of such fees, such taxes shall be added tothe invoice therefore at the applicable rate, tetapi dari dokumenyang diberikan pada saat keberatan masih belum ada kejelasanmengenai pihak yang menanggung pajak;d.

Putusan Nomor 966/B/PK/PJK/2017Fis7.3.7.4,7DPPh yang menjadi dalil alasan bandingnya dengan perincianmasingmasing objek PPh sehingga tidak dapat diketahuikebenaran adanya pajakpajak yang dibayar untuk masingmasing objek pajak.Bahwa berdasarkan buktibukti berupa Service Agreementdinyatakan all fees (annual fee, it fees and the fees foradditional services) shall be denominated and paid in euro andshall be exclusive of vat and all other taxes. in the event that vatand/ or any other tax shall be due

in respect of such fees, suchtaxes shall be added to the invoice therefore at the applicablerate,Bahwa akan tetapi dari dokumen yang diberikan pada saatkeberatan masih belum ada kejelasan berdasarkan buktimengenai pihak yang menanggung pajak;Bahwa berdasarkan ketentuan dalam perjanjian ini, jumlahkomisi yang dibayarkan adalah bersih dari PPN dan pajaklainnya, dan jika komisi yang dibayarkan tersebut terutangpajak, maka jumlah tersebut harus ditambahkan ke dalaminvoice sesual dengan tarif pajak yang

abstrak sehingga tidak mudah diidentifikasi;bahwa sebagai upaya untuk mengetahui bagaimana seharusnya memaknai "penyerahanjasa" sebagaimana tertera pada Pasal 4 huruf c UndangUndang PPN, mengingat belumditemukannya penjelasan yang jelas terkait hal tersebut pada penjelasan undangundang,dapat Terbanding uraikan sebagai berikut :bahwa berdasarkan article tiga puluh satu EU VAT Directive tentang Place of Supply ofGoods dinyatakan bahwa where goods are use dispatched or transported, the place ofsupply shall

be deemed to be the place where the goods are located at the time when thesupply takes place;bahwa berdasarkan article empat puluh tiga EU VAT Directive tentang General RulesPlace of Supply of Service dinyatakan bahwa the place of supply of service shall bedeemed to be the place where the supplier has established his business or has a fixedestablishment from which the service is supplied, or, in the absence of such a place ofbusiness or fixed establishment, the place where he has his permanent address

abstrak sehingga tidak mudah diidentifikasi;bahwa sebagai upaya untuk mengetahui bagaimana seharusnya memaknai "penyerahanjasa" sebagaimana tertera pada Pasal 4 huruf c UndangUndang PPN, mengingat belumditemukannya penjelasan yang jelas terkait hal tersebut pada penjelasan undangundang,dapat Terbanding uraikan sebagai berikut :bahwa berdasarkan article tiga puluh satu EU VAT Directive tentang Place of Supply ofGoods dinyatakan bahwa where goods are use dispatched or transported, the place ofsupply shall

be deemed to be the place where the goods are located at the time when thesupply takes place;bahwa berdasarkan article empat puluh tiga EU VAT Directive tentang General RulesPlace of Supply of Service dinyatakan bahwa the place of supply of ser8vice shall bedeemed to be the place where the supplier has established his business or has a fixedestablishment from which the service is supplied, or, in the absence of such a place ofbusiness or fixed establishment, the place where he has his permanent

Bahwa berdasarkan Pasal 18.00 ayat (2) Distributorship Agreement telahdisepakati hal hal sebagai berikut:Pasal 18.00 Ayat (2) Distributorship Agreement:"... any dispute or claim arising out of or in connection with this Agreementor any breach hereof shall be settled finally by arbitration.

The arbitrationHal. 25 dari54 halaman Putusan Nomor 320 K/Pdt/2015264.shall take place in Seoul, Korea and shall be conducted in accordance withthe Rules of the Korean Commercial Arbitration Board by three arbitratorsappointed according to those rules ...";Terjemahannya sebagai berikut:"... segala sengketa yang timbul dari atau memiliki hubungan dengan ataupelanggaran terhadap Perjanjian ini akan diselesaikan secara final melaluiarbitrase.

;Bahwa ketentuan yang sama juga terdapat dalam Pasal 17 ayat (1) dariSupply Agreement, yang berbunyi sebagai berikut:5.Pasal 17 ayat (1) Supply Agreement:"... any and ail disputes or differences which may arise out of, or in relation to,or in connection with this Agreement, shall be settled within sixty (60) daysthrough friendly negotiations between the Parties. In case no settlement canbe reached through negotiations, such disputes shall be submitted to andfinally settled by arbitration.

;Bahwa dalam Pasal 25 ayat 1 Technical License Agreement jugadisetujui ketentuan yang sama, yang berbunyi sebagai berikut:26Pasal 25 ayat (1) Technical License Agreement:"Any and all disputes or differences which may arise out of, or in relation to, orin connection with this Agreement, shall be settled within sixty (60) daysthrough friendly negotiations between the Parties.

In case no settlement can27be reached through negotiations, such disputes shall be submitted to andfinally settled by arbitration. Arbitration shall take place in Korean CommercialArbitration Board pursuant to Korean Commercial Arbitration Rules ...";Terjemahannya adalah sebagai berikut:"Segala sengketa atau perbedaan yang mungkin timbul dari atau memilikihubungan dengan Perjanjian ini akan diselesaikan dalam jangka waktu enampuluh (60) hari melalui negosiasi antara para pihak.

However, such interest may also be taxed in the State in which it arisesand according to the laws of that State, but if the Beneficial Owner of theinterest is a resident of the other State, the tax so charged shall not exceed10 per cent of the gross amountof the interest.3.

Notwthstanding the provisions of paragraph 2, interest arising in one of thetwo States shall be taxable only in the other State to the extent that suchinterest is derived by:(i) the Government of the other State, including political subdivisions andlocal authorities thereof; or(ii) the Central Bank of the other State; or(iii) a financial institution owned or controlled by the Government of theother State, including political subdivisions and local authorities thereof;or(iv) any resident of the other

Notwthstanding the provision of paragraph 2, interest arising in one of theother Stares shall be taxable only in the other State if the Beneficial Ownerof the interest is a resident of the other State and if the interest is paid onaloan made for a period of more than 2 years or is paid in connection wththe sale on credit of any industnal, commercial or scientific equipment.5.

The competent authorities of the two States shall by mutual agreementsettle the mode of application of paragraphs 2, 3 and 4.Bahwa Pemohon Peninjauan Kembali (Ssemula Terbanding) melakukankoreksi positif Dasar Pengenaan Pajak (DPP) Pajak Penghasilan Pasal 26berupa bunga pinjaman sebesar Rp.19.395.600.000,00 karena pada saatpemeriksaan diketahui berdasarkan hasil pertukaran informasi dengan pihakotoritas Belanda, dapat disimpulkan pihak Dupoer Finance, B.V. adalah bukanBeneficial Owner (BO) atau pemilik

Commentary on Article 11 Paragraph 17any provision of this Convention conferring an exemption from, or areduction of tax shall not apply if more than 50 per cent of suchincome is used to satisfy claims by such persons (including interest,royalties, development, advertising, initial and travel expenses, anddepreciation of any kind of business assets including those onimmaterial goods and processes) *;Dalam buku berjudul "Beneficial Ownership of Royalties in Bilateral TaxTreaties" yang ditulis oleh

07 Juni 2013 menyatakan :bahwa berdasarkan penelitian terhadap dokumen yang dilampirkan,pengenaan BM yang berlaku umum atas importasi yang dilakukan PemohonBanding karena berdasarkan penelitian terhadap Form E E133106108720021tanggal 29 Januari 2013 kedapatan Origin Criteria WO tidak memenuhikaidah sebagaimana disebutkan dalam Rule 3 of The RoO for The ACFTA.bahwa berdasarkan Annex 3 Rules of OriginRule 2, Origin Criteria disebutkan:For The purpose of this agreement, products imported by a party shall

bedeemed to be originating and eligible for preferential concessions if Theyconform to The origin requirements under any one of The following:a) Products which are wholly obtained or produced as set out and defined in Rule 3; orb) Products not wholly produced or obtained provided that The said products are eligebleunder Rule 4, Rule 5 or Rule 6;Rule 3, Wholly Obtained Products:Within The meaning of Rule 2 (a), The following shall be considered aswholly produced of obtained in a party:a) Plant!

mangalihkanseluruh hak berdasarkan Kontrak Bagi Hasil Blok B kepada Pemohon Banding namunpada kenyataannya Asamera dan Benedum tetap memiliki kepentingan ekonomis atasKontrak Bagi Hasil blok B dengan cara memiliki hak secara kontraktual untukmenerima bagian atas hasil yang didapat dari produksi di masa yang akan datang;Bahwa perjanjian pengalihan 1968 secara tegas menyatakan bahwa Penjual tetapmemiliki suatu kepentingan Pasal V.B.1 dari Perjanjian Pengalihan 1968 berbunyisebagai berikut :Buyer shall

CONTRACTOR shall comply with therequirements of the law in particular with respect to filing of returns, assessment of taxand keeping and showing of books and records;yang terjemahan Bahasa Indonesianya adalah sebagai berikut:Hal. 17 dari 72 hal. Put. No. 585/B/PK/PJK/201 1KONTRAKTOR harus: ...

Ketentuan KBH Blok B yangdisepakati oleh Pemerintah Indonesia dan Pemohon Peninjauan Kembalimenetapkan pembagian antara pemerintah dan Pemohon PeninjauanKembali sebagai berikut:KBH Blok B 1978:Article 6.1.5of the crude oil remaining after deducting First Tranche Petroleuminvestment credit and Operating Costs, PERTAMINA shall be entitledto take and received 65.9091% and CONTRACTOR shall be entitledto take and receive 34.0909%;Article 6. 2.3 (a)for natural gas from the Arun Gas Field produced to supportPERTAMINA's

Section 5.2(s)dari KBH Blok B menyatakan sebagai berikut:Contractor shall:(s) pay to the Government of The Republic of Indonesia the IncomeTax including final tax on profits after tax deduction imposed on itpursuant to the Indonesian Income Tax Law and its implementingRegulations.

CONTRACTOR shall comply with the requirements ofthe law in particular with respect to filing of returns, assessment of taxand keeping and showing ofbooks and records;Yang terjemahan Bahasa Indonesianya adalah sebagai berikut:KONTRAKTOR hatus: ...

abstrak sehingga tidak mudah diidentifikasi;bahwa sebagai upaya untuk mengetahui bagaimana seharusnya memaknai "penyerahanjasa" sebagaimana tertera pada Pasal 4 huruf c UndangUndang PPN, mengingat belumditemukannya penjelasan yang jelas terkait hal tersebut pada penjelasan undangundang,dapat Terbanding uraikan sebagai berikut :bahwa berdasarkan article tiga puluh satu EU VAT Directive tentang Place of Supply ofGoods dinyatakan bahwa where goods are use dispatched or transported, the place ofsupply shall

be deemed to be the place where the goods are located at the time when thesupply takes place;bahwa berdasarkan article empat puluh tiga EU VAT Directive tentang General RulesPlace of Supply of Service dinyatakan bahwa the place of supply of service shall bedeemed to be the place where the supplier has established his business or has a fixedestablishment from which the service is supplied, or, in the absence of such a place ofbusiness or fixed establishment, the place where he has his permanent address

abstrak sehingga tidak mudah diidentifikasi;bahwa sebagai upaya untuk mengetahui bagaimana seharusnya memaknai "penyerahanjasa" sebagaimana tertera pada Pasal 4 huruf c UndangUndang PPN, mengingat belumditemukannya penjelasan yang jelas terkait hal tersebut pada penjelasan undangundang,dapat Terbanding uraikan sebagai berikut :bahwa berdasarkan article tiga puluh satu EU VAT Directive tentang Place of Supply ofGoods dinyatakan bahwa where goods are use dispatched or transported, the place ofsupply shall

be deemed to be the place where the goods are located at the time when thesupply takes place;bahwa berdasarkan article empat puluh tiga EU VAT Directive tentang General RulesPlace of Supply of Service dinyatakan bahwa the place of supply of service shall bedeemed to be the place where the supplier has established his business or has a fixedestablishment from which the service is supplied, or, in the absence of such a place ofbusiness or fixed establishment, the place where he has his permanent address

4..Petugas yang bertanda tangan di bawah ini, nama Mugn) Set YOWAT , cHnip .'97007.20 200701 2 ol2cp shall vel et ree Se... dengan mengingat sumpah jabatan serta berdasarkan peraturan Daerah Kota MalangNomor 5 Tahun 2009 tentang Penyidik Pegawai Negeri Sipi menyatakan bahwa pada hari ini, MN csc onetanggal 20 !9....... pukul...